I've given this thread up. While I'm not convinced that there isn't a
problem, I am convinced that most people on this list are convinced that
there isn't. When/if it bites me, I'll write a patch and have real code
to show people. If it bites IBM before it bites me and they fix it, well
and good. So in a sense it isn't a problem- if it becomes one it can (and
will) get fixed.
On Mon, 24 Jan 2000, Ingo Molnar wrote:
>
> On Thu, 20 Jan 2000, Brian Hurt wrote:
>
> > Following this thread off and on since it's inception, and being a Java
> > programmer myself, can I offer some observations?
> >
> > Thousands of threads in a program is not unreasonable. If you may want to
> > take full advantage of a 128 CPU machine, for example, you need _at_
> > _least_ 128 threads. If your threads spend most of their time blocking,
> > you need even more threads, you need to overschedule, to make sure you
> > generally have enough threads not blocking to make sure CPUs aren't going
> > to waste. Unfortunately, due to vagaries of the system, you will have
> > points when most of the threads become runnable at once.
>
> i believe you are confusing '2000 threads created and happily waiting
> blocked to do something' and the '2000 threads running' case. I
> specifically included a quick benchmark showing 20 thousand threads being
> around on my system and not impacting Linux scheduler performance the
> slightest. What i say is that more than nr_cpus*2 _running_ (ie. currently
> waiting for the CPU, not some other resource) threads are bad.
>
> -- mingo
>
>
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